Iran sends another stern warning to Israel

msnbc -- Former US Ambassador to Morocco Marc Ginsberg joins MSNBC to explain why there is reason to believe Iran is close to developing the capabilities to test a nuclear weapon.

An israeli attack on iran could then ultimately lead to the collapse of the jewish state. Iran 's defense minister today said that israel 's on the verge of dissolution. his staples come as inspectors from the international atomic energy agency says iran has been ramping up its enrichment of urani uranium. this increases concerns about iran producing an atomic weapon . former u.s. ambassador to morocco, mark ginsburg. good to see you. good morning or good afternoon.

>> look, let's talk about what you make about this threatening statement by iran 's defense minister about israel ?

>> this is just a long line of threats against israel that go back for years, denials of israel 's right to exist and the escalation of tensions between iran and israel are reaching a boiling point. recent attempts to assassinate israeli diplomats and police in georgia from which i just came a few days ago as well as in new delhi, and of course, the overall stake of the situation based on iran 's nuclear ambitions.

>> so the u.n.'s nuclear watchdog agency, the iaea , says its report that iran has sharply increased its uranium enrichment . so what does that mean for gathering enough material for a nuclear weapon ?

>> alex, the iaea inspectors were there last week. they were invited in by the iranian government and then denied access to the facilities that they wanted to inspect, and the iranians denied entering into any understanding that would allow these inspectors to continue their work.

>> can i ask something? why do they do that? why do they bring them in and then say, well, you can't go there. we're not going give you access to something. what is that?

>> it's part of their bait and switch strategy. there's five plus one talks going on in istanbul right now, that is negotiations where the iranians claim they're engaged in negotiations, but they know that these inspectors can get too close to the holy grail and actually uncover factual evidence that they've enriched enough uranium to weaponize a nuclear weapon or to have gone to the point where they actually know how to produce a nuclear weapon .

>> you know, this iaea report also says that iran has failed to give a convincing explanation about a certain quantity of missing uranium. that might be used for experiments in arming a nuclear missile .

>> indeed. both of us are not nuclear scientists, but it's not difficult for our viewers to understand that iran has reached an important threshold. they now have enriched enough uranium and have mastered the art of enriching enough uranium that they have gone far beyond any peaceful program. they've reached into the territory where they can actually produce enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon .

>> so diplomatic resolutions, is there anything that can be put on the table that you think can solve this?

>> of course, you know, the dip the mas are going to keep trying, but let's be real and realistic here about what the israelis understand. the israelis are convince that iran with a nuclear weapon is an existential threat. they have separate timetables here over determining how much the threat is proceeded. theis ryllis believe that if iran has enough uranium to enrich that as a red line . the american, however, believe iran has to prove that it can produce a nuclear weapon and that's the americans' red line and that's why there is a disagreement between israel and the united states over how much time to give the iranians to prove that they're prepared to step down the ladder or gone over the red line .

>> because how for do you believe the iranians are from building a nuclear bomb .

>> based on everything that i'm seeing and everything that i'm hearing, they have enriched enough uranium now to take that uranium and put it into that device. they have a former soviet scientist working with them to weaponize that uranium. they're less than six months away from mastering the ability to test a nuclear device .

>> wow. very sobering. former u.s. ambassador to morocco marc ginsburg. thanks so much.

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